[ETC-Discussion] Facebook

Sun May 9 08:11:24 EDT 2010

Tim- 

Glad you are staying on the list.  We don't want to lose you or anyway else.  Given your personal history, your concerns are more than understandable and warranted and are a good lesson.  It never hurts to raise these questions and require reasonable answers. 

I know the ETC Board wants to be sure our members are comfortable with how we are handling these matters. 

Michael A. Corn 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Coglon" <coglont at verizon.net> 
To: michaelcorn at comcast.net, "ETC Discussion List" <Discussion-list at evergreentandemclub.org> 
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:31:34 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: RE: [ETC-Discussion] Facebook 

Thanks to all who took the time to discuss the Facebook issue. When I first came across the Facebook issue I was following it out of interest due to the fact that three times I and my family have been the victims of breech of information. Twice due to hackers being able to enter supposedly verysecure data banks and once due to the loss of a employee's computer which contained personal data which should not have been in the computer. The concern was that this information could be used to back track into private computers and compromise  the e-mail lists and communications in these computers. We so far have not had any problems but these businesses were required to provide us with five years of free credit check service as well as computer security program. These are some of the same issues which are starting to show on Facebook (according to the various articles and new releases). This prompted my questions about ETC and Facebook. What individual members do with Facebook is their own concern as long as it doesn’t compromise the rest of the members. I will continue to belong to the discussion list as I do feel this an important method for members to communicate. I also feel, as some of the other members have expressed, that there are legitimate concerns and this should have been presented to the members. Again thanks for the discussion.  Tim   

-----Original Message----- 
From: discussion-list-bounces at evergreentandemclub.org [mailto:discussion-list-bounces at evergreentandemclub.org] On Behalf Of michaelcorn at comcast.net 
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:26 PM 
To: ETC Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [ETC-Discussion] Facebook 

Tim- 

Without getting into other problems with Facebook, information about ETC consists of a link to our website and whatever personal information that ETC members choose to share about themselves.  I don't see anything of concerrn.  You can take a look for yourself. 

There is no exchange of electronic data between ETC and Facebook and its servers.  ETC's policy with regard to member information is stated on our website. 

I sincerely hope that you and others do not drop off this listserv as it is one of the ways we are able to communicate with one another. 

I am sure that Bob will fix the wayward link to the old website.  That odd message you saw was probably a programmer's sense of humor.  The old website will likely be left up for only a short period of time. 

Michael A. Corn 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Coglon" <coglont at verizon.net> 
To: "Dave Van Horn" <Dave at VanHorn.com>, Discussion-list at evergreentandemclub.org 
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 6:05:19 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [ETC-Discussion] Facebook 

Dave... Are you implying there is no validity to the recent articles in the 
news and PC magazine?  Tim 

-----Original Message----- 
From: discussion-list-bounces at evergreentandemclub.org 
[mailto:discussion-list-bounces at evergreentandemclub.org] On Behalf Of Dave 
Van Horn 
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 5:15 PM 
To: Discussion-list at evergreentandemclub.org 
Subject: Re: [ETC-Discussion] Facebook 

A group "on Facebook" does not put any data about the group's membership on 
Facebook.  Lots of big corporations are on Facebook -- do you think that 
puts their corporate directories on line?  Of course not.  The FBI, CIA and 
NSA are all on Facebook, after all.  The only way there will be any 
connection between you and ETC on Facebook is if you create one by creating 
a Facebook account and "friending" ETC. 

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From: "Tim Coglon" <coglont at verizon.net> 
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 1:10 PM 
To: <sneads at gte.net> 
Cc: <Discussion-list at evergreentandemclub.org> 
Subject: [ETC-Discussion] Facebook 

> Bob . Can you explain what the current web site means when it says ETC in 
> now on Facebook. In  view of the current articles (See Google news 
> articles 
> from PC World, CBS, Etc) on the prolific  Privacy and Security issues with 
> Facebook , I have serious concerns with any connection to Facebook. . The 
> previous web page was ( as you are aware) flaunt with spam and problems of 
> security.  The new Web site looks good except for the fact that if you 
> click 
> on the HOME box it reverts back to the old web site, including all the old 
> information of that site. A box then appears with a bunch of BS about how 
> bad a server itself is and continues with spam like stuff about I don't 
> know 
> what you want , I don't know you etc. It would appear that some of the old 
> issues are still present, as well as connected. My concern is we may now 
> be 
> connected to additional security and spam problems through Facebook. We 
> all 
> appreciate the extensive work you have put into this and I hope these 
> things 
> can be resolved. As for now I have no desire to have anything to do with 
> Facebook.   Thanx, Tim 
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